Bachelorette Katie Hometowns Recap: I Like the Way You Look

Bachelorette Katie Hometowns 

I have to admit that this recap feels daunting. After watching Katie’s “hometowns,” followed by a quick perusal of the Twitterverse, I’ve deduced that much like our friend Greg, Bachelor Nation is reeling in emotions. We are divided, dear reader. And social media dictates that you must choose sides.

Are you Team Greg? Or are you Team Katie? 

I’m not ashamed to admit that more than half of my morning walk with Lara (roommate) was dedicated to an extensive pro/con list detailing the ins and outs of what went down in the last forty-five minutes of the show. Lara is a lawyer. Therefore, she argued both sides beautifully. Since I’m a simple writer, I will take her words and make them my own later in the recap.

But first, we have to get through a few somewhat boring hometowns dates. I’ve taken the liberty of narrowing two of them down to the bare essentials. Let’s zip through these, shall we?

BLAKE

Katie executes an incredible Jump & Straddle™ worthy of Olympic gold. She’s eager to visit Canada, and I have to give props to the ABC Intern for slapping a maple leaf on anything that stands still in the resort bar. How did he get so much Canadian memorabilia on such short notice?

Then I remembered that Serena from Matt James’ season is Canadian. I’m sure there’s a warehouse in east LA full of decorative pillows, rustic lanterns, a thousand tea lights, 8×10 dancing rugs, roaming benches, and a big box of Canadian paraphernalia. I bet one of the stipulations of Blake hijacking the season was that he had to run by the storage facility and pick up the moose antlers, which would later be Gorilla glued to a mechanical bull.

That’s right. Katie and Blake rode a mechanical moose. They also played darts. Blake confesses that a typical Friday and Saturday night for him is playing darts with his buddies. It’s just like Lara and me, but substitute “darts” with “mahjong.” #samsies. 

We also learn that Blake uses syrup in the bedroom. 

After a quick game of asphalt hockey, Katie changes into her favorite girl-next-door outfit to meet Blake’s family. Katie is nervous. Blake tries to calm her down by saying, “You don’t have to be great. You just have to be you.”

Interesting. Is that the same as when Aaron Neville sings, “I don’t know much, but I know I love you?” Whatever. Let’s meet the sister who looks like a Jungle Cruise Skipper. LOVE HER.

Since Blake is sex-positive, he has no problem telling his mother that he and Katie connect on a physical level. Their personalities also align. Mama takes Katie for a little one-on-one time, and this was when I noticed that she is wearing the over-fifty version of Sandy’s black leather pants. She also gives a nod to Connor the Cat by making sure her first few buttons are undone.  There’s no doubt she’s giving someone chills that are multiplying. Go Blake’s Mom.

There’s nothing new to learn in the conversation, other than Katie informing his mother that she does not plan on telling any of the men that she loves them until it’s the last guy standing. Ironically, while Katie shares this tidbit of information with Blake’s mom, Blake’s sister is grilling her brother, and I AM HERE FOR IT.

Sister: “So, this is it…now? You were set on Clare. Then you were infatuated with Tayshia. Now Katie is the one. Is she falling in love with you? Have you said it?”
Blake: “What do you mean? I’d propose for sure.”
Lincee: “Atta boy, Blake. Don’t be great. Just be you.” 

I understand this feels like Skipper Sister is pressuring Blake into an admission of love when he may not necessarily feel it on his insides. HOWEVER, Blake just told his sister that he’s ready and willing to propose. Clearly, Skipper Sister can only conclude that if he’s going to drop down on one knee and pop open the Neil Lane box, he can say I love you to the woman he’s about to spend the rest of his life with, right?

In the end, Blake can’t say it. Why? Because he doesn’t feel it. It’s as simple as that.

JUSTIN

Justin’s family proves they are hella normal by their unwillingness to travel to New Mexico from Baltimore so they can meet a woman their son has known for seventeen hours. He puts on a happy face when Katie performs a mediocre Jump & Straddle™ into his arms. Then they take a horse-drawn carriage ride through the desert. Since the same scenery whisks by with every passing second, and they have nothing to say to one another, they decide to make out for the duration of the trip. 

Oddly enough, Katie can’t stop blabbering about her chemistry with Justin. Is this creative editing? Or is she just trying to throw us off the trail? Regardless, she is upset when Justin reveals that his family isn’t coming to meet her, but his two best friends are at the resort. 

We meet Tommy and Herb, and I decide that Herb is the greatest. I would like for him to be my friend, too. In a nutshell, we learn that Justin is not big on PDA and has an extremely hard time letting his guard down. But he’s perfectly content with Katie, and the friends can see that he’s very happy. 

Justin doesn’t seem to think that saying “I love you” is a big deal. He has plenty of time. Herb gently reminds his buddy that there are four days left. It’s as if this is brand new information for Justin. 

I don’t think Herb necessarily meant for Justin to say those three little words to Katie, but that’s exactly what Justin does while canoodling on the roaming bench. I’m pretty sure Herb’s point was for Justin to reflect that there are only four days left, and he hasn’t said it to this woman, so maybe he needs to rethink his potential future with Katie. 

Peer pressure is real. The more you know.

GREG

The most enthusiastic Jump & Straddle™ is definitely the one Greg receives when Katie greets him. I found it odd that Greg chooses to wear pajama shorts on his date, but I’ll let it slide.

They ride a tandem bike, repurpose the mechanical bull/moose setup with a surfboard, play a little basketball, and kiss in the fabricated rain, which we know was the ABC Intern and one of the handlers spraying a water hose on the lovebirds. 

Meeting the family is a delight. Greg’s mom is wonderful. His brother is normal. His best friend is Michael Phelps. And the two sisters who couldn’t be there send video messages, complete with salutations from all nine nieces and nephews. 

Needless to say, Greg is a hot emotional mess. He can’t stop the tears from falling. The family tells Katie that “the light” has turned back on in Greg’s eyes. Since his father’s death, something has been missing. Katie has brought joy into his life and they are forever grateful. Katie responds by promising his mother and brother that Greg will be there next week. He’s definitely going through. He all but has a rose on the lapel of his hoodie/blazer combo.

Greg emotes all over the place, sharing that Katie is the one. He is going to marry her. They’ve even talked about moving to New York together. Katie fills him up with happiness, and there isn’t an iota of his subconscious telling him to run. He would like to hear, “I love you, though.” And he hopes he’s going to get that validation tonight.

Why Greg’s mom doesn’t tell her son that Katie will not be offering that validation is beyond me. Katie told her that she wouldn’t say it until the last man was standing. Details. 

Greg sits down with Katie and is visibly beside himself when Katie relays that her family promises he hasn’t been this happy in a very long time. Greg takes the next five minutes to pour every inch of his heart out. He once again admits that he is in love and that this is real to him. 

He pauses to give Katie the opportunity to respond since he’s dominated the conversation. She does not. Katie just stares at him, stone still, with what some called a “creepy smile” on her face. 

A few beats pass and Greg asks, “What do you think?”

Katie: “Nothing. I just love looking at you.”

What in the actual world was that? Greg flings his feelings on Katie in a solid profession of undying love and our bachelorette claps back with, “I love looking at you?” 

Something is amiss. The disconnect can’t be this severe.

Katie bowls through Greg’s shock, ensuring he knows she told everyone that he is “there next week.” She believes in their connection and promises it will be worth it in the end. Then she whispers, “We’re almost there.”

I’m glad to witness that Katie isn’t a complete idiot. She notices his sharp transformation into Moody Greg and asks why he’s hastily switched his attitude from blushing bride to a sullen teenager playing Fortnite in his basement. 

Greg responds with his own questions, including but not limited to: What do you mean? What do you think? Don’t you know what I need?

Katie stares at him. She reveals nothing in her face. She has zero sentimentality. Greg reminds her that this is hard, and even though he knows there are other guys, he wants a reality check of what is going on in Katie’s head. Her response? “Just hang in there.”

Greg is shocked. He can’t wrap his head around what’s happening. At this point, I’m sort of confused too, but when they begrudgingly stand up to go outside, they stop in a darkened room right by the door to hash it out further. Here is where we get more clues, presumably, because they think they are hidden in the shadows, and their mic packs are miraculously turned off by themselves.

Katie claps back, assuring him that it’s hard for her to go and see other families. But, of course, this means nothing to Greg. She tells him that he’s definitely getting a rose. This pisses him off even further. Katie wonders how all of a sudden, he has lost trust in their relationship. She warned him it was going to be hard!

Greg: “I can’t be there at the end if it’s not going to be me.”
Katie: “I need you to trust me.”

Greg: “How can you not know that it’s me and you at this point? This is the end!”
Katie: “I never felt like you wanted to give up until right now.”
Greg: “I never felt like you were holding back until right now.”

Katie walks out to the SUV and instructs Greg to “give me a kiss.” It was short, quick, and uncomfortable. Just like that time the bottle landed on NAME REDACTED at Leslie W’s boy/girl party in 1992, and I had to suck it up and touch lips with the Jack Wagon (gross) because I was sure a future spin would surely land on the boy I really wanted to kiss.

Spoiler: It did not. 

GREG THE SEQUEL

Greg gets dressed and visits Katie. She immediately knows something is wrong because when boys get all spiffed up and come to her room, it always ends poorly. She steels her nerves and looks at him in anticipation.

Greg: “I wanted to talk to you about the other night.”
Katie: “You seem nervous.”
Greg: “You seem fine.”
Lincee: “OOOHHHHHHHHH NO YOU DIDN’T!”

Katie looks alarmed. Greg presses on, reminding her that he told his entire family that she was the one. She fills this hole in his heart. He wanted to express that huge reality to her, and when he was done, he felt like he was telling his deepest feelings to a stranger. In his eyes, she dismissed him without a thought.

To Greg’s point, she did just sit there. But the question remains, why?

Katie apologizes that she came off inconsiderate. She determines that Greg’s crushed heart results from her failing to tell him that she doesn’t plan on saying “I love you” to any of the men until they are the last one standing. All better? 

Nope. In fact, all is not better. All is very, very bad. Katie has inadvertently dashed fuel into the fire. Greg receives this information as confirmation that Katie has no idea who is going to end up as the final guy. If she knew without a shadow of a doubt that it was him, she would have said it. Because why would it matter at that moment?

To Greg’s point again, there are only a few days left.

Greg launches into this hypothesis with fresh vigor. Who cares about the rose? Why does that matter? He just told her she fills a hole in his heart left by his dead father. And she has NOTHING to say in return? 

Katie finally allows herself to start crying. She’s a bit defiant. She is not giving up on them, and she has fought so hard to make sure he knew that he was a front-runner. 

Greg laughs at the disconnect. He confesses that after giving her everything, he’s reached his breaking point. Katie treads lightly, wondering if Greg is saying that he doesn’t want to stay. Is he done?

Greg: “That’s exactly what I’m saying. It was never about a rose for me. I never asked you to confess your love. I was just asking for Katie.”

They are days away from an engagement. He let it all out the other night. She didn’t have a response. Greg assumes that Katie is incapable of understanding what he needs in a moment like that (read: some sliver of validation), and as a result, they must not be compatible. He was going to marry her. He saw her as his girl. CUE THE WATERWORKS.

Katie: “I don’t know what to say.”
Lincee: “We know. Also, SAY SOMETHING.”

Greg is frustrated. He leaves Katie to weep on her crying sofa. He stumbles around the resort and finally slumps into a chair at the outdoor cantina. With the help of thirty producers and two camera crews, Katie “finds” Greg and hustles to him. Whilst pressing her boobs into his face, she frantically hugs him. 

She’s confused about how that one night changed everything. Then she admits that he has always been her number one. Moody Greg rubs his eyes in disgust. It’s not about one or two. Doesn’t she understand?

Greg doesn’t want to be number one. He wants to be the only one. Was she going to wait until after the fantasy suites when they made love?

As someone who is sex-positive, I’d say that probably factors into her decision. Sorry, Greg. 

Katie is shaking. She wonders out loud if there’s even a point for her to try and change his mind. Is she wasting her time? What does it matter if Greg doesn’t believe her? This whole thing is for NOTHING if he leaves!

Greg: “I’m not happy here anymore. I’m done.”

And he walks off. 

Katie rushes back to her room as fast as she can go in her fluffy pink house shoes and barricades herself in the bathroom. Kaitlyn comes to talk her off the ledge through the door, and later, in the actual lavatory. She knows she can’t get Greg back, and she wants someone to book her flight home right now.

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

A lot is going on in this exchange. And I’m curious what will happen next week on the (THREE HOUR) season finale. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, Katie does not look happy whatsoever. Look at her face. It’s pained.

As I mentioned at the beginning of the recap, Bachelor Nation is divided in two. So let’s see if we can sift through the debris and make something of the breakup. 

FACTS

  • Greg vomits his feelings all over Katie, through tears of joy and probably some relief, exclaiming that she is his future wife. 
  • We also learn from family members that Greg has never talked about his dad to anyone before. So this is also a milestone to keep in mind.
  • Katie responds in silence, with a plastered smile on her face. I think this was genuine. I don’t think she was faking the smile. 
  • Greg wants some sort of response or validation, so he asks for one. Katie’s unfortunate reply is, “I just like looking at you.”
  • Greg tries to get her to say something positive about their relationship on the couch that night, as well as in the darkened room. All Katie can say is something along the lines of, “Trust me.”
  • I don’t believe Greg was looking for “I love you.” I think he just needed something that endorsed his very deep, very emotional feelings. PS: That endorsement didn’t need any sort of language that involved the show. Nothing about a rose or his placement in comparison to the other guys. 
  • Katie drops the ball again in the darkened room. Question: Can she not say anything? Is it in her contract that she can’t tell Greg specifically that he is the winner? She did use the term “front-runner,” but I guess he still considers that a comparison.
  • Or does Katie not know who the winner is at this point? Remember, when Michael went home, she cried, claiming that her person just left the show.
  • Maybe she does need the fantasy suites to decide.
  • I believe Greg going to Katie in her room was Katie’s last chance to fix what he believed she messed up on the hometown date. Was this a lost in translation moment? Does Katie really not “get” what Greg is asking her to do or say?
  • Question: If Katie was all in for Greg, and he one-hundred-percent was the last guy standing in her mind, could she pull a Colton and leave with Greg? Or has that been fixed in the contract since he jumped that fence?
  • Some people on Twitter believe Greg was too hard on Katie. They believe she was doing what she had to do to play the game and follow the rules.
  • Some also believe that he shouldn’t expect her to react a certain way. Just because he laid his feelings all on the table doesn’t mean she has to have a certain reaction to them. 

THOUGHTS

  • Why did the show runners have an “In Memoriam” b-roll package of Greg at the end of the episode? Is that supposed to be funny? Are they hopeful the audience will accept him? Remember their love story fondly?
  • Was Greg’s response enough to land him a coveted position of future Bachelor? Or do too many people hate him?
  • There is footage of Katie going on a date with Blake where a big huge puppet man is burning. This has to be during the finale. There’s also a moment when Katie is sitting on the bed and Blake closes the door with the “do not disturb” sign. One would assume sex-positive stuff is going on in that room. 
  • So, does Katie not get a ticket home? Does she go on fantasy dates with Blake and Justin? (Even writing Justin, I laughed in my head. Poor Justin.)
  • And if Blake is the last man standing, does he get mad when he watches Katie’s breakdown over both Greg and Michael? 
  • Does Uncle Neil come to the resort? Will anyone propose? We’ve yet to see the Home Depot proposal pedestal. 
  • Will Greg show up at After the Final Rose and profess his love?
  • Will Katie ask the show to fly her to Ohio so she can start a life with Michael and James?
  • Who’s watching Bachelor in Paradise besides me?

Sound off in the comment section! Let’s figure this out together. And NO SPOILERS!

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Teri
Teri
August 3, 2021 2:29 pm

Greg is unreasonable and he revealed his insecurities. Ick. He’s being way too hard on Katie.

Mary
Mary
August 9, 2021 9:41 pm
Reply to  Teri

She was to hard on him, she wanted the same when she was in his shoes

Ruth
August 3, 2021 2:29 pm

I, like Katie, was confused about what Greg wanted. Did he want her to stop the show and leave with him? Did he want her to say I love you, I pick you, you’re the one? Because she kind of did. And then he didn’t want it. Did he want the perfect reaction that he pictured in his mind and when he didn’t get it he was done? Was he just so mad he wouldn’t listen to anything? Or is Katie still trying to make up her mind and he sensed that? Did the producers make him watch the date with Blake and get in his head?
I need clarity!

Grace
Grace
August 3, 2021 3:24 pm
Reply to  Ruth

He wanted something but got nothing

Grace
Grace
August 3, 2021 3:25 pm
Reply to  Ruth

He wanted something but got nothing

Allia
Allia
August 3, 2021 9:44 pm
Reply to  Ruth

The way I see it is that he wanted her to stop the show and leave with him. She didn’t understand that and didn’t know what to do with his extreme emotional display. I also don’t think she was ready to stop the show process. He didn’t like that she didn’t bend to his (again, rather extreme) expectations, and stormed out. One can only conclude that he didn’t actually care about her needs or feelings. It was all just “me me me”. Yes, Katie could have given him more, but she tried to reassure him in like 20 different ways, and all of them were deemed unacceptable. She dodged a bullet imho.

Didi
Didi
August 4, 2021 11:05 am
Reply to  Allia

I think he would have been happy if she just looked really happy that he said all that stuff. I would have realized she didn’t know it was just me by her reaction.

Mary
Mary
August 9, 2021 9:42 pm
Reply to  Didi

I agree!!

NoJo
NoJo
August 3, 2021 2:31 pm

Let’s not forget, Greg caught a glimpse of Katie and Blake’s date, so I think he started faltering at that moment. He was stressed and freaked out about what he saw going into hometowns, then add the obviously painful (and not dealt with) emotions over his dad, and I don’t think Katie stood a chance at doing whatever he thought would be right. I didn’t like his reaction and treatment of her at all. He wasn’t playing fair and wasn’t respectful of her boundaries. He wasn’t listening to what she said, she was totally blindsided by his meltdown.

Tracy
Tracy
August 3, 2021 4:10 pm
Reply to  NoJo

I agree 100%. His insecurities kicked in at the time of Katie’s date with Blake. Although I agree Katie could have handled it somewhat better, Blake actually scared me with his reaction! He didn’t give at all. Maybe she is better off.

Mary
Mary
August 9, 2021 9:43 pm
Reply to  Tracy

Agreed

Karen
Karen
August 3, 2021 2:36 pm

Well done Lincee. Is it fair to say that the contestants these days don’t have the same endurance factor as the contestants in the days of yore? Between Colton/Cassie, Claire/Dale, and now this season, it seems like we aren’t getting a full intended-structured season.

Stacy
Stacy
August 3, 2021 2:37 pm

I am surprised anyone is blaming her. I get that he wanted to hear “I love you,” back but he totally berated her for not giving him what he needed to hear. What are you supposed to say when someone says “I love you,” and you aren’t ready to say it back (for any reason) it is going to be a little awkward. This is like consent to me– it is her choice when and if to say it to him. He was a total baby.

Tracy
Tracy
August 3, 2021 4:15 pm
Reply to  Stacy

The bachelor/bachelorettes used to never say “I love you” until the end. Where did all these declarations of love in the middle of the show come from?

Sara
Sara
August 5, 2021 4:18 pm
Reply to  Tracy

Tracy, correct, in fact, at the podium, they would very often say “I’ve been wanting to say this to you…” Once Ben said it to two people, I kind of feel like that opened the floodgates.

Norma
Norma
August 3, 2021 2:38 pm

I was very disappointed with Greg’s whole attitude. I was trying to understand where he was coming from and I feel he was being way too hard on Katie. Maybe we ‘missed’ something in the editing and we don’t have visibility to know what that is, but I thought Katie was doing the best she could to reassure him. Greg went all kinds of unreasonable and wouldn’t even listen to Katie. Glad he removed himself after the way he acted!

I really like Justin, but she won’t pick him. She didn’t get to meet his family and that was a major disappointment for her. You could see it in her face.

I am not a fan of Blake. Never have been. If she accepts a proposal from him in the end, it won’t last.

And can I say that the background music is extremely annoying??? It’s just too loud and drowns out the conversation. You can’t even turn up the TV to catch the conversation because the music just gets louder too. Major pet peeve of mine.

Gracie
Gracie
August 3, 2021 2:44 pm

Wow, wow, wow….saying nothing would be better than “i just love looking at you”. Either she really does not like him, or she is a totally clueless woman. Hard to tell which. Thanks Lincee for yout alwYs great recaps and podcasts.

DRP
DRP
August 9, 2021 9:38 am
Reply to  Gracie

Realizing we only see an edited version, I nevertheless ask: could Katie be emotionally unavailable?

She rejected two of the most open/emotional/vulnerable guys, Connor B and Andrew, and only ran after the other two, Michael A and Greg, when she realized they truly were leaving her. It might explain her awkward and somewhat cerebral response to Greg’s confession of love… and why she has two remaining guys who have not opened up at all.

Wendy
Wendy
August 3, 2021 2:49 pm

Team Greg all the way. Katie sat there and stared at him while he poured out his heart. It was cold and unfeeling. She could have said something, anything that would have validated him. She screwed this all up on her own. I know Greg is a hot mess but so what – he’s in love.

I thought the B Roll may have been a reminder. I am hoping, probably foolishly, that either Greg or Katie will come to his/her senses and seek out the other. Justin/Jared whoever the J-named dude is – well, he’s complete irrelevant and a place holder.

I seriously doubt Katie has real feelings for Blake. He falls for the flavor of the day. No thanks.

Unless she gets with Greg, count me out!!

Mary
Mary
August 9, 2021 9:46 pm
Reply to  Wendy

You are so right! She is very selfish.

Gracie
Gracie
August 3, 2021 2:50 pm

Interesting how everyone so far is pro Katie. I felt the problem was not the absence of “i love you” but rather the absence of anything other than a blank expression. Something really missing, maybe she was embarrassed because she does not feel what he feels. I think she could have solved everything with a hug then, not the next day.

Old Christine
Old Christine
August 3, 2021 11:25 pm
Reply to  Gracie

Yes!

Monica
Monica
August 14, 2021 8:33 am
Reply to  Gracie

Absolutely! Why was it so supported when Katie stood up for herself last season but Greg is exiled?! She didn’t even say how it made her feel to hear him say that. Team Greg 100%.

Mort
Mort
August 3, 2021 2:55 pm

I think everything Greg said made sense and was rational in a real world context. The problem is that this show isn’t the real world and it’s not set up to produce healthy relationships. Greg is too nice and normal to be on this show. I don’t think he knew what he was getting himself into.

Debbie
Debbie
August 3, 2021 2:56 pm

I’m Team Greg on this one. I understand that he was way more emotional then we’re used to seeing from the males on this show, but I also think it’s been more than evident that Katie and Greg have the best connection. She likes to make out with the others but I haven’t seen any depth in her relationship with Blake or Justin. Greg was “the One” and instead of telling him he “had a rose” or was the “front-runner” she should have just told him something more than she loved looking at him. That was lame. Let’s not forget that he said they had talked about her moving to New York. That says a lot about what he understood vs. what she gave him. I understand why he said what he did -she seemed way too caught up in the “game” and he wanted reality (not reality TV)

Sal in Utah
August 3, 2021 3:01 pm

Glad Greg showed his true colors before she accepted a proposal from him. He would not be good in a situation that required maturity cause he’s like a kid who didn’t get his way. I’d say she dodged a bullet. Get that guy some therapy ASAP. And yes, poor Blake if she chooses him and he watches how the season unfolds knowing she “settled” for her second choice. I applaud her for sticking to her guns and not just professing love when it’s not her final guy.

Allia
Allia
August 3, 2021 9:31 pm
Reply to  Sal in Utah

I think her decision to hold off on the “I love you” was her saving grace. If Greg really cared about her as much as he claimed, he would have respected that and let her have her time. It was a test of character and he totally failed.
Good on her for not giving in!

Paul
Paul
August 5, 2021 5:23 pm
Reply to  Sal in Utah

Agree. Red flags were flying. Greg went from handsome sensitive guy to passive-aggressive baby in a heartbeat. I think Katie had strong feelings for him but she had her eyes open all the way. She dodged a bullet. I don’t see a match for her on the show. Not Blake, definitely not Justin. I still like her. She will have no problem finding someone outside of Bachelor World. PS, I miss Chris.

Susan Curry
Susan Curry
August 3, 2021 3:04 pm

The last options are that Greg wants to be the Bach more than he wants Katie… Possible because his reaction was so over the top (like other “auditions” from final contestants) or the whole thing was producer driven like I think the Arie/Becca thing seemed to me and even the Jason Mesnick switcharoo.

If Katie ends up with Greg I call foul.

arbormom
arbormom
August 3, 2021 3:31 pm

I am Team Greg 1000%. The guy just blurts out how much he loves her, that she is filling a hole he has from losing his Dad, and all she can do is stare at him with a pasted smile on her face? What does that even mean? I don’t think he needed an “I Love You” .. I think he needed some validation from her that she heard him. All she would have had to say is “thank you for saying that” or “that makes me feel so happy” and go in for a big kiss and he would have been OK. As it is, she left him hanging. If I had a heart-to-heart with my husband of 32 years and he gave me that look, I’d be furious. And I thought she was also broken up about losing HER Dad so the fact that she remained silent .. almost laughed at him .. is inexcusable. She had the perfect man and she let him go.

Amanda
Amanda
August 3, 2021 3:32 pm

I was actually horrified to watch this episode last night. To me, this looked like emotional abuse, and it was painful to watch the manipulation (possibly/probably unintentional on Greg’s part) play itself out. I’m a psychologist, and I’ve talked to a lot of people after the fact of emotional manipulation, and it’s devastating. I feel sad when I think about Katie watching herself apologize so much last night. She had an awkward reaction to his statement of love, and then he turned on her and was unwilling to hear anything she had to say. Katie’s not perfect, but she didn’t try to hurt Greg. He, I think, DID try to hurt her.

Dee
Dee
August 3, 2021 5:02 pm
Reply to  Amanda

I agree with you 100%. I’ve seen this type of manipulation in my family with four different family members and it’s ugly to watch. The women know something is wrong but end up blaming themselves and wondering if maybe they’re crazy. Katie’s reaction wasn’t perfect but if Greg loved her like he said it wouldn’t have been so easy for him to treat her that way and walk away.

Jude
Jude
August 3, 2021 7:33 pm
Reply to  Amanda

I just went back and watched the entire Greg/Katie fiasco and believe that Greg needs therapy BIG TIME to heal from the loss of his Dad. Also, if Katie didn’t need therapy before….she certainly does NOW!! Greg was totally irrational in his thinking and treatment of what transpired between them. Katie, while not reacting the way Greg felt she should… is not to blame for the way HE is feeling about the whole incident. Yes, she didn’t respond to his initial heartfelt comments to her in perhaps the most heartfelt way, but she certainly didn’t deserve his shocking, childish demeanor in the final interaction between the two of them. I had red flags going up all over the place after THAT ending!!

Jude
Jude
August 3, 2021 7:40 pm
Reply to  Jude

Yep…it was RED FLAG CITY after their final discussion!!

Allia
Allia
August 3, 2021 9:22 pm
Reply to  Amanda

Yes, Amanda! I don’t think Greg necessarily meant it, but he was totally manipulative, probably out of insecurity and desperation. I was kind of shocked at how he was totally unwilling to compromise or even consider that Katie has her own process and (for whatever reason) needs time. I felt like she was caught off guard by his over-the-top display of feelings and suddenly huge expectations, and she didn’t know how to react. That’s why she was so awkward with him. I don’t think he really cared about her feelings at that point, or he would have had more self control and more consideration for what she needs.

Michelle
Michelle
August 3, 2021 9:54 pm
Reply to  Allia

Agree 100%!!

Michelle
Michelle
August 3, 2021 9:53 pm
Reply to  Amanda

I completely agree! Also, putting myself in Katie’s shoes for a minute, I don’t think I’d respond well to being told that I’d filled the hole in someone’s heart from a loss like that. That would just make me feel unsettled, like it was putting pressure on our connection in a way that didn’t feel right to me.

Allia
Allia
August 3, 2021 10:26 pm
Reply to  Michelle

That’s a really good point. I wouldn’t know how to respond to that either. Also, his “you look fine” comment spoke volumes about his intentions. Clearly he was expecting her to feel perturbed, upset, or otherwise bad. It actually pissed him off that she was okay. That’s not someone who’s gonna have her back when she needs support.

Paul
Paul
August 5, 2021 5:27 pm
Reply to  Amanda

Yeah, it was hard to watch alright. I hated the way Greg treated her. She wobbled a bit with all the “sorrys” but she managed to maintain her composure and self-respect and not give in to his passive-aggressive manipulation.

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